Support forum of the software localization tool Sisulizer


.NET, Delphi, ... - Sisulizer Localization Tool Support Home

Get in contact with the makers of Sisulizer.
Our forum is open for all questions around Sisulizer from customers and prospects.
Don't hesitate to register and ask. The Sisulizer team will answer ASAP.

Search     Help Home Sisulizer Website Download
Search by username
Not logged in - Login | Register 

 Moderated by: Renate.Reinartz, Markus.Kreisel, Jaakko.Salmenius, Ilkka.Salmenius
New Topic Reply Printer Friendly
Validation of hotkeys - Wish list for software localization tool - Technical Support (You need to be registered at the forum to write) - .NET, Delphi, ... - Sisulizer Localization Tool Support
AuthorPost
 Posted: Wed Sep 27th, 2006 01:08 pm
PM Private Upload Quote Reply
Isabella
Member
 

Joined: Tue Sep 12th, 2006
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 28
Status: 
Offline
This might actually be considered a bug; When validating a form with regard to hotkeys, the system does not take into consideration that several commands are restricted to certain menues. This means that a &e in H&elp will work even if there also is a menu choice &Module > &Edit (or something). Even so, Sisulizer reports this as errors.

And then there is my wish; as one often works with one form at a time, it would be very nice to be able to validate that form only - not allways the whole project.

Isabella

Back To Top PM Private Upload Quote Reply

 Posted: Wed Sep 27th, 2006 04:53 pm
PM Private Upload Quote Reply
Ilkka.Siikanen
Administrator
 

Joined: Wed Aug 30th, 2006
Location: Vantaa, Finland
Posts: 115
Status: 
Offline
That hotkeys validation was allready on my todo list. I will fix it soon.

Form only validation is a good idea. I will implement that too.

regards,
Ilkka



____________________
http://www.sisulizer.com - Three simple steps to localize
Back To Top PM Private Upload Quote Reply

 Posted: Thu Sep 28th, 2006 07:33 am
PM Private Upload Quote Reply
Isabella
Member
 

Joined: Tue Sep 12th, 2006
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 28
Status: 
Offline
Excellent!

Isabella

Back To Top PM Private Upload Quote Reply

 Posted: Mon Oct 2nd, 2006 09:58 am
PM Private Upload Quote Reply
Isabella
Member
 

Joined: Tue Sep 12th, 2006
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 28
Status: 
Offline
When I first wrote, I was working only with menues. Obviously, the same thing goes for forms with tabs. A hotkey somewhere on one tab does not clash with a hotkey on another tab in the same form - even if Sisulizer reports this as an error.
:-)

Isabella

Back To Top PM Private Upload Quote Reply

 Posted: Mon Oct 2nd, 2006 10:57 am
PM Private Upload Quote Reply
Ilkka.Siikanen
Administrator
 

Joined: Wed Aug 30th, 2006
Location: Vantaa, Finland
Posts: 115
Status: 
Offline
I fixed that too. These fixes will be included to the next build.

Ilkka



____________________
http://www.sisulizer.com - Three simple steps to localize
Back To Top PM Private Upload Quote Reply

 Posted: Tue Oct 3rd, 2006 05:56 pm
PM Private Upload Quote Reply
Ilkka.Siikanen
Administrator
 

Joined: Wed Aug 30th, 2006
Location: Vantaa, Finland
Posts: 115
Status: 
Offline
Now the build 183 is out.

Fixes:
- form only validation (there is a new button on form toolbar).
- hot keys validation has been fixed for menus and tabs

Ilkka

 



____________________
http://www.sisulizer.com - Three simple steps to localize
Back To Top PM Private Upload Quote Reply

 Posted: Mon Oct 9th, 2006 03:42 pm
PM Private Upload Quote Reply
Isabella
Member
 

Joined: Tue Sep 12th, 2006
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 28
Status: 
Offline
We now have the 184 build, but Sisulizer still reports errors for hotkeys that really don't clash because they are screentexts on separate tabs.

But the form validation button is good!

Isabella

Back To Top PM Private Upload Quote Reply

 Posted: Mon Oct 9th, 2006 04:47 pm
PM Private Upload Quote Reply
Ilkka.Siikanen
Administrator
 

Joined: Wed Aug 30th, 2006
Location: Vantaa, Finland
Posts: 115
Status: 
Offline
Could you send your project file (.slp) to me by email, please.

ilkka.siikanen (at) sisulizer.fi

regards,
Ilkka



____________________
http://www.sisulizer.com - Three simple steps to localize
Back To Top PM Private Upload Quote Reply

 Posted: Fri May 16th, 2008 05:32 am
PM Private Upload Quote Reply
Isabella
Member
 

Joined: Tue Sep 12th, 2006
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 28
Status: 
Offline
Hi,

How are you doing with the duplikate hotkey validation?

We now have version 1.6.23, and it still reports "duplicate" menu hotkeys that are no problem, but ignores the fact that the button &OK clashes with another &o in the form.

Otherwise, this validation is very useful - especially the "available hotkeys function" :-)

Regards, Isabella

Back To Top PM Private Upload Quote Reply

 Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 04:05 am
PM Private Upload Quote Reply
Ilkka.Salmenius
Administrator


Joined: Wed Aug 8th, 2007
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 795
Status: 
Offline
I tested with couple of projects and the validation worked fine on them.

Could you send your .SLP file to us please. And tell in which form the invalid validations occurs. I can take a look of it.

support (at) sisulizer.fi

best regards
Ilkka



____________________
http://www.sisulizer.com - Three simple steps to localize
Back To Top PM Private Upload Quote Reply

 Posted: Tue May 20th, 2008 03:47 am
PM Private Upload Quote Reply
Ilkka.Salmenius
Administrator


Joined: Wed Aug 8th, 2007
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 795
Status: 
Offline
Thank you for the .SLP file. You were right. Sisulizer detected wrong duplicate hotkey violations. I will fix it. I will also fix it to find inherited hotkeys.

regards
Ilkka



____________________
http://www.sisulizer.com - Three simple steps to localize
Back To Top PM Private Upload Quote Reply

 Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 06:03 am
PM Private Upload Quote Reply
Janusz Grzybek
Super Moderator


Joined: Fri Dec 1st, 2006
Location: Zabrze, Poland
Posts: 2542
Status: 
Offline
Hello,

 

Hotkeys validation features doesn’t work with text localizations, for example with GetText (PO/POT) and INI files. Disabling some validation features for these methods of localization is logical, for example “Duplicate form hotkey“, but it seems to me that adding to PO or INI localizations “Inconsistent hotkey” validation is good idea, because both PO and INI localizations usually use ampersand characters as hotkey symbol, and if original string e.g. “&Delete” contain ampersand, that is translated string should also contains “&” character. What do you think about adding “Inconsistent hotkey” validation to validation set for text based localizations?

BTW

On list in validation dialog window (select of validation types) for all supported platform are always visible all possible validation items, but not all items are available for each platform, e.g. “Duplicate hotkeys” or “Overlapping controls” are unavailable for PO or INI localization. Unfortunately, it is could sometimes to mislead some not experienced translators, e.g. translator can to use “Inconsistent hotkey” feature for PO file, and after validation tests he don’t see any results in validation results pane, even if original and translation contains different counts of hotkeys characters. What do you think about disabling in UI (invisible or greyed items in UI) unsupported for selected platform validation items?

 

Best,

Janusz 



____________________
http://www.sisulizer.com - Three simple steps to localize
Back To Top PM Private Upload Quote Reply

 Posted: Mon Jun 16th, 2008 08:12 am
PM Private Upload Quote Reply
Isabella
Member
 

Joined: Tue Sep 12th, 2006
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 28
Status: 
Offline
Hello!

I am sorry that I am not that familiar with these file types and the technicalities involved. However, I would principally support a decision to disable options that are not feasible for the platform/files/settings at hand. That way the end result would not be as confusing.

Are you saying that the "duplicate hotkeys" check is not possible in my project - which is from Visual Studio and .Net?

If so, that is really a shame, because checking each form manually for e.g. two or more conflicting "&S" is very time consuming, and an automatic check here would be really welcome! :-)

Nevertheless, a check for "inconsistent hotkey" is also valuable. :-)

Isabella

Back To Top PM Private Upload Quote Reply

Current time is 08:13 am  
.NET, Delphi, ... - Sisulizer Localization Tool Support > Technical Support (You need to be registered at the forum to write) > Wish list for software localization tool > Validation of hotkeys



WowUltra modified by Sisulizer Copyright © 2007-09 by Jim Hale - Based on WowBB Copyright © 2003-2006 Aycan Gulez

Sisulizer software localization tool - Three simple steps to localize