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No, latest sisulizer didnt help, i must try to install latest SP on Server 2003...

If that doesnt work, you mean i ahve to run on XP?

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I would think that the latest W2003 SP has the same language support as Windows XP.
If the latest SP does not help, we will try to reproduce the issue with W2003 ourself later this week (we do not have W2003 at our hands in support right now).

To me it looks like if Sisulizer tries to retrieve the three letter code from some library and gets back an empty string. My guess is, that it is the OS missing the needed information.

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Here is a list that shows the support of Windows for languages:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms776260(VS.85).aspx

The pity is, that it does not have info about W2003. It only mentions XP and later (that that include W2003 or not???) plus Vista for Bosnian.

You should at least try the latest SP for W2003.

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I’ve installed Win 2003 in my second office, and I’ll try to reproduce issue when I’ll go to this office, that is, tomorrow.

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Thank you very much for all help

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Hello,

I installed Sp2 on Win Server 2003 and
now it works to build the HRB-file also.

Thanks for all support! Sisulizer team has the best/fastest support i have
come upon!

Another question about this project, we expected the output of
Croatia (Bosnia Hercegovina to be BSB not HRB)? I'm a bit confused
about the Croatian and bosnian languages.

Best Regards /Mikael


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Hi,

great. The SP was simply to old.

You need to select "Bosanski, Cyrillic" to get the BSB three-letter-code.

Btw: I found some interesting list of mfc languages codes here: http://www.codeproject.com/KB/locale/MultiLangSupportMFCExtDLL.aspx?fid=200190&df=90&mpp=25&noise=3&sort=Position&view=Quick&select=2389623

Perhaps this helps to find the right language.

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Thank you Markus,

the link is great!

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Windows code for Croatian is HR, for “Croatian (Bosnia Hercegovina)” Windows use combination of HR (Croatian language) code plus B (Bosnia). Croatian use Latin alphabet. BSB is code for Cyrillic version of Bosanski language, while your language in project is Croatian.

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Thank you also Janusz, for information, then its HRB we should use.

Best regards /Mikael

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Hello again Guys!

Som questions /odd things about croatian /Serbian languages.

We noticed that Croatia (Croatia) and Serbian (Latin) produce the same language
code HRV, is that correct?

Also, another strange thing, when entering Serbian (cyrillic) as a language it adds up ok, but when selecting in the top drop down in Sisulizer, it shows up as  Croatia (Croatia). Isnt that strange?

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Can i please have some attention on this one, or should i add it as a new bug?
Regards /Mikael

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Hi Mikael,

No, don't please add a new thread while I can't see a bug in this at the moment.

If you look to the link I gave in that thread you will see that the languages you named are all using the same HRV code. This is reflected in the <mfc> placeholder.

You might want to use some different placeholder to get a more matching output for the sub language you want to use, e.g. <win>. Then you get HR and SRL. I don't know how your programming platform supports these abbreviation since they are pretty fresh.

I did some tests for your second issue but could never reproduce that. I always ended with Croatian, Serbian Latin, and Serbian Cyrillic in my drop down list.

Hope this helps

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Hello,

Markus is right. You can to find information about MFC language code here: http://www.codeproject.com/KB/locale/MultiLangSupportMFCExtDLL.aspx?fid=200190&df=90&mpp=25&noise=3&sort=Position&view=Quick&select=2389623
However seem to me that I found bug in Sisulizer for MFC names, because Sisulizer create for MFC pattern following extensions:
SRB for “Serbian, Cyrillic” while MFC code is HRV
SRB for “Serbian, Latin (Serbia)” while MFC code is SRL
SRN for “Serbian, Latin (Bosnia and Herzegovina)” while MFC code is SRS
I’ll forward it to our R&D.
 
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Ok, thank you for comments.

Replacing <mfc> with <Win> works, but we dont understand a thing
Seems almost all (but not all) languages then also produce a main language
(two character code) output, for instance, the serbocroatian languages (we have some) also procude an extra HR-output when specifying <Win> in the output.

Also, similarly we have one Norvegian language Nynorsk, producing a NON output and a NO output.

But, and here its strange, the Swedish language only produces a SVE output, one
could expect here also a SV output for it all to be logical and similar to the cases above? We have one Norveigan language, and get a NON and a NO output, but
having one Swedish language gives only a SVE output, can you please explain that?
Also, why is the two character code outputs also created?

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Hi Mikael,

To be honest, I also wonder about the different types of standards for these language codes.

We as a software maker would prefer if there would be only one clear standard. But VCL, MFC, ISO, and other have different schemes - not to mention all the code pages invented.
 
I really have no clever answer to that. Just except that we try to find the codes for all official languages. If there are new sub-languages and new codes, like for former Yugoslavia we add the new codes as soon as we information about them.

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Hi Markus,

Yes from what i don't understand, i understand that this is a non-well-defined field.
But, still, please hang on for some more minutes, I mean, the files i'm talking about above is produced by Sisulizer, soo, why do Sisulizer produce an additonal NO output when we have one Norvegian language, but no SV additional output for our one and only Swedish language. All this applies to when specifying the place holder for output files.

Regards /Mikael

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Can you please upload your .slp to

http://www.sisulizer.com/uploadform.shtml

so I can take a look at your output settings in the project.

Best

Markus



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THanks Markus,

Its going on now...

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Hello,
 
I tried reproduce your issue with Nynorsk, and I’ve got for <win> method always only NO for “Norwegian, Nynorsk” and  NON for “Norwegian, Nynorsk (Norway)”. If you have only one Norwegian language, maybe for some source you have set up <win> pattern and for other <mfc> and as results you got files with different extensions for Nynorsk.
For “Swedish” language I’ve got SV extension, for “Swedish (Sweden)” I’ve got SVE.
 
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